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		<title>By: geekmommy</title>
		<link>http://geekmommy.net/2008/05/08/why-yes-actually-girls-can-do-math/comment-page-1/#comment-361</link>
		<dc:creator>geekmommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 13:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DataJunkie - yeah, people like Clay make me leery for certain.  Not that I&#039;m not certain there aren&#039;t folks who are just as misinformed and zealous on both of the other candidates&#039; sides - they just seem to be less likely to open their mouths this time around and spout fanatical gibberish.

The funny part is that it&#039;s more the rabid frothing at the mouth of some of his supporters that turns me off than Obama himself.  He doesn&#039;t come across that way himself - just far too many of his supporters.

It&#039;s kind of a case of &quot;with friends like you, who needs enemies?&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DataJunkie &#8211; yeah, people like Clay make me leery for certain.  Not that I&#8217;m not certain there aren&#8217;t folks who are just as misinformed and zealous on both of the other candidates&#8217; sides &#8211; they just seem to be less likely to open their mouths this time around and spout fanatical gibberish.</p>
<p>The funny part is that it&#8217;s more the rabid frothing at the mouth of some of his supporters that turns me off than Obama himself.  He doesn&#8217;t come across that way himself &#8211; just far too many of his supporters.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of a case of &#8220;with friends like you, who needs enemies?&#8221;<br />
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		<title>By: DataJunkie</title>
		<link>http://geekmommy.net/2008/05/08/why-yes-actually-girls-can-do-math/comment-page-1/#comment-360</link>
		<dc:creator>DataJunkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent story, and excellent response to Clay. Obama supporters like him are what even further steer me away from Obama and toward the other party. Of course, the typical supporter on those blogs would call me a Republican troll for saying that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent story, and excellent response to Clay. Obama supporters like him are what even further steer me away from Obama and toward the other party. Of course, the typical supporter on those blogs would call me a Republican troll for saying that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sorrow</title>
		<link>http://geekmommy.net/2008/05/08/why-yes-actually-girls-can-do-math/comment-page-1/#comment-359</link>
		<dc:creator>Sorrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 01:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh yes political Zealots...
I&#039;m a bit phobic of those impaired individuals...
Don&#039;t won&#039;t go there
:P
15 year old now has respect because i am teaching him chemistry...
You know a potter has to be able to understand not only Math , but Chemistry, and a bit of geology, and a dash of physics too??
I tell you Artist Moms, get so little respect!
~chortle~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh yes political Zealots&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m a bit phobic of those impaired individuals&#8230;<br />
Don&#8217;t won&#8217;t go there <img src='http://geekmommy.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
15 year old now has respect because i am teaching him chemistry&#8230;<br />
You know a potter has to be able to understand not only Math , but Chemistry, and a bit of geology, and a dash of physics too??<br />
I tell you Artist Moms, get so little respect!<br />
~chortle~</p>
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		<title>By: geekmommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>geekmommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 00:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sorrow - seriously? lol... you&#039;d think he would know his mom well enough to know that artist or not, she&#039;s no slouch in the brains department!

Art is math, practically applied! Seriously, how else are you supposed to get perspective and ratio right?

Then again, if you saw the comment 2 above yours, at least your son isn&#039;t likely to turn into someone that clueless! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sorrow &#8211; seriously? lol&#8230; you&#8217;d think he would know his mom well enough to know that artist or not, she&#8217;s no slouch in the brains department!</p>
<p>Art is math, practically applied! Seriously, how else are you supposed to get perspective and ratio right?</p>
<p>Then again, if you saw the comment 2 above yours, at least your son isn&#8217;t likely to turn into someone that clueless! <img src='http://geekmommy.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sorrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 00:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, this made me laugh.
it brings to mind the 15 year old struggling with Algebra, and mom helping him. ( and yes i remember sitting in muddys working on trig homework)When he got it and went to school the next day and decided that because Mom was an &quot;artist&quot; and artists can&#039;t do math, and did something completely different..
and of course FAILED.
But MOM! artists can&#039;t do math!
neither can women or men or people who play the lottery...
~chortle~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, this made me laugh.<br />
it brings to mind the 15 year old struggling with Algebra, and mom helping him. ( and yes i remember sitting in muddys working on trig homework)When he got it and went to school the next day and decided that because Mom was an &#8220;artist&#8221; and artists can&#8217;t do math, and did something completely different..<br />
and of course FAILED.<br />
But MOM! artists can&#8217;t do math!<br />
neither can women or men or people who play the lottery&#8230;<br />
~chortle~</p>
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		<title>By: geekmommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>geekmommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 22:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Clay - way to prove that YOU at least, can not only NOT do math, but can&#039;t read either.

I never said I was &quot;on the fence&quot; between 2 candidates.  Who said I wasn&#039;t voting for McCain?

You are just one of those sad people for whom reality is only shaped by your own desires.  I&#039;m not &quot;grasping at straws&quot; - personally, I have no vested interest in Hillary winning a nomination - I&#039;m just capable of actually DOING math.  Something, I&#039;m afraid, all of your hyperbolic rhetoric doesn&#039;t negate.

The sad part is, that people like you make me leery of Obama, because anyone with such fanatical, uninformed, illogical supporters makes me nervous.

The math doesn&#039;t change because you don&#039;t like it. Possibility and Probability are two different things.  But you keep saying stupid things like &quot;It is mathematically impossible for her to win.&quot; Because I&#039;ve just outlined exactly how it *is* mathematically possible for her to win.

Moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Clay &#8211; way to prove that YOU at least, can not only NOT do math, but can&#8217;t read either.</p>
<p>I never said I was &#8220;on the fence&#8221; between 2 candidates.  Who said I wasn&#8217;t voting for McCain?</p>
<p>You are just one of those sad people for whom reality is only shaped by your own desires.  I&#8217;m not &#8220;grasping at straws&#8221; &#8211; personally, I have no vested interest in Hillary winning a nomination &#8211; I&#8217;m just capable of actually DOING math.  Something, I&#8217;m afraid, all of your hyperbolic rhetoric doesn&#8217;t negate.</p>
<p>The sad part is, that people like you make me leery of Obama, because anyone with such fanatical, uninformed, illogical supporters makes me nervous.</p>
<p>The math doesn&#8217;t change because you don&#8217;t like it. Possibility and Probability are two different things.  But you keep saying stupid things like &#8220;It is mathematically impossible for her to win.&#8221; Because I&#8217;ve just outlined exactly how it *is* mathematically possible for her to win.</p>
<p>Moron.</p>
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		<title>By: Clay Shentrup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clay Shentrup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 22:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m astounded that you could still be on the fence about these candidates, considering all the Rovian things Clinton has done during this campaign.  She&#039;s also mired in neo-con authoritarianism.  She voted for the Iraq war, she voted for the Flag Desecration Amendment, and she&#039;s driven by a sociopathic obsession with power.  Forget for a moment about how much more effective Obama was as a legislator because of his respect for the First Amendment, and his knack for bringing co-signers on board to build bipartisan support.  Forget that she&#039;s a war-monger who threatened to &quot;obliterate&quot; Iran.  Just look at her behavior during this campaign.  She&#039;s fake-cried, she&#039;s lied about the Tuzla affair (even claiming she arrived the day before the border re-opened, when news accounts from that time specifically stated that she arrived the day after), she&#039;s claimed that Obama took down his famous anti-Iraq-war speech on his web site (even though the Internet Archive shows it was consistently up).  She&#039;s even spoken with a fake southern black drawl in one appearance.  There&#039;s nothing she won&#039;t stoop to.  I don&#039;t want that desperate maniac anywhere near the Red Button.  She doesn&#039;t have the temperament for that a position of that much power.

As to your math argument here, it&#039;s rather pathetic and grasping at straws.  She&#039;s won a little more than half the super-delegates thus far, and Obama is gaining on her.  Her best result in any state was in Arkansas, where she got something like 72%.  It is mathematically impossible for her to win.  Got it?  You can bring up absurd scenarios like &quot;all remaining supers could vote for her and she could win&quot;, but that&#039;s no different than saying &quot;Obama could be struck by lightning and she could win.&quot;

Yes, it is in some totally theoretically sense &quot;possible&quot;.  But get back to reality here.  Okay?  Reality.  She&#039;s over.  Toast.  Done.  Finished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m astounded that you could still be on the fence about these candidates, considering all the Rovian things Clinton has done during this campaign.  She&#8217;s also mired in neo-con authoritarianism.  She voted for the Iraq war, she voted for the Flag Desecration Amendment, and she&#8217;s driven by a sociopathic obsession with power.  Forget for a moment about how much more effective Obama was as a legislator because of his respect for the First Amendment, and his knack for bringing co-signers on board to build bipartisan support.  Forget that she&#8217;s a war-monger who threatened to &#8220;obliterate&#8221; Iran.  Just look at her behavior during this campaign.  She&#8217;s fake-cried, she&#8217;s lied about the Tuzla affair (even claiming she arrived the day before the border re-opened, when news accounts from that time specifically stated that she arrived the day after), she&#8217;s claimed that Obama took down his famous anti-Iraq-war speech on his web site (even though the Internet Archive shows it was consistently up).  She&#8217;s even spoken with a fake southern black drawl in one appearance.  There&#8217;s nothing she won&#8217;t stoop to.  I don&#8217;t want that desperate maniac anywhere near the Red Button.  She doesn&#8217;t have the temperament for that a position of that much power.</p>
<p>As to your math argument here, it&#8217;s rather pathetic and grasping at straws.  She&#8217;s won a little more than half the super-delegates thus far, and Obama is gaining on her.  Her best result in any state was in Arkansas, where she got something like 72%.  It is mathematically impossible for her to win.  Got it?  You can bring up absurd scenarios like &#8220;all remaining supers could vote for her and she could win&#8221;, but that&#8217;s no different than saying &#8220;Obama could be struck by lightning and she could win.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, it is in some totally theoretically sense &#8220;possible&#8221;.  But get back to reality here.  Okay?  Reality.  She&#8217;s over.  Toast.  Done.  Finished.</p>
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		<title>By: jenuinejen</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenuinejen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 22:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Republican and do not have much of an opinion about which Dem gets the nomination.

With that being said, I am with you that it is aggrevating to say that &quot;women can&#039;t do math.&quot;  Sen. Clinton has the possibility to win.  Clearly the Dem Party is split almost right down the middle with who they want their nominee to be.  She owes it to herself and to her supporters (financial, volunteers, and voters) to do what she can by the Dem Party rules to continue on.

BTW, in addition to the delegate count, it is interesting to see that with Florida and Michigan&#039;s popular vote taken into consideration Sen. Obama is ahead by less less than 100,000 votes.  That is not a large spread.

Finally, as far as telling people to drop out or not goes, it does happen all the time.  On the GOP side, people were calling for Fred Thompson to drop out before the first vote was cast.  Additionally, after the first couple of primaries, people were for Guiliani then Romney, and finally Huckabee to drop out.  So, I do not think it is so much a woman thing as a party influncer thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Republican and do not have much of an opinion about which Dem gets the nomination.</p>
<p>With that being said, I am with you that it is aggrevating to say that &#8220;women can&#8217;t do math.&#8221;  Sen. Clinton has the possibility to win.  Clearly the Dem Party is split almost right down the middle with who they want their nominee to be.  She owes it to herself and to her supporters (financial, volunteers, and voters) to do what she can by the Dem Party rules to continue on.</p>
<p>BTW, in addition to the delegate count, it is interesting to see that with Florida and Michigan&#8217;s popular vote taken into consideration Sen. Obama is ahead by less less than 100,000 votes.  That is not a large spread.</p>
<p>Finally, as far as telling people to drop out or not goes, it does happen all the time.  On the GOP side, people were calling for Fred Thompson to drop out before the first vote was cast.  Additionally, after the first couple of primaries, people were for Guiliani then Romney, and finally Huckabee to drop out.  So, I do not think it is so much a woman thing as a party influncer thing.</p>
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		<title>By: lilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that was a great (and very satisfying) read. i think it&#039;s important that we let democracy happen and give everyone a chance to vote in the primaries. as a woman i completely resent the comments being made by pundits that (i don&#039;t think) would be said if she was a he.

hillary shouldn&#039;t drop out because people tell her to - she entered the election to win and if it truly does become impossible for her to win, only then should she drop out. no one ever won by listening to people telling them to give up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that was a great (and very satisfying) read. i think it&#8217;s important that we let democracy happen and give everyone a chance to vote in the primaries. as a woman i completely resent the comments being made by pundits that (i don&#8217;t think) would be said if she was a he.</p>
<p>hillary shouldn&#8217;t drop out because people tell her to &#8211; she entered the election to win and if it truly does become impossible for her to win, only then should she drop out. no one ever won by listening to people telling them to give up.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Dockery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Dockery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I missed the &#039;girls can&#039;t do math&#039; part of the argument - so I&#039;m glad you wrote this post.  As a dad to two teenage daughters, I&#039;m the &#039;girls can do math/science/whatever&#039; cheerleader at my house.

As for the political part of your post, I agree - I haven&#039;t decided yet and don&#039;t think I will for the foreseeable future.  But, you know what, neither you nor I *have* to decide yet.  Polls be damned! I&#039;ll know when I know and not a second before.

I&#039;ve read a great number of posts and Tweets today that said HRC should get out of the race &#039;for the good of the party&#039;.  But isn&#039;t going through the motions of voting and counting the delegates/supers the mechanism of our republic?  I think it&#039;s a great thing both she and Senator Obama continue to run until the people have definitively said who they have chosen.

Just my $0.02.

Great post - as alway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I missed the &#8216;girls can&#8217;t do math&#8217; part of the argument &#8211; so I&#8217;m glad you wrote this post.  As a dad to two teenage daughters, I&#8217;m the &#8216;girls can do math/science/whatever&#8217; cheerleader at my house.</p>
<p>As for the political part of your post, I agree &#8211; I haven&#8217;t decided yet and don&#8217;t think I will for the foreseeable future.  But, you know what, neither you nor I *have* to decide yet.  Polls be damned! I&#8217;ll know when I know and not a second before.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read a great number of posts and Tweets today that said HRC should get out of the race &#8216;for the good of the party&#8217;.  But isn&#8217;t going through the motions of voting and counting the delegates/supers the mechanism of our republic?  I think it&#8217;s a great thing both she and Senator Obama continue to run until the people have definitively said who they have chosen.</p>
<p>Just my $0.02.</p>
<p>Great post &#8211; as alway.</p>
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